From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Selection changes Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:41 -0400 Message-ID: <874og1j3nu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87ocea2ax1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <1279132758.2135.81.camel@logrus.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279133797 14981 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2010 18:56:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jeff Clough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 14 20:56:31 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ786-0002ty-7j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:56:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59189 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZ77o-000413-7w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48581 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZ75X-0002Qz-DH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ75U-00044K-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:45 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po14.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.23]:56764) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ75U-00044E-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:44 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014221.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po14.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o6EIrfM7020135 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E52AAC011; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <1279132758.2135.81.camel@logrus.localdomain> (Jeff Clough's message of "Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:39:18 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127311 Archived-At: Jeff Clough writes: > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 14:08 -0400, Chong Yidong wrote: >> I've changed the way Emacs interacts with the X clipboard and selection, >> to bring it in line with how other X applications behave. For most >> users, the main visible change is that `kill' and `yank' now interact >> with the clipboard. One advantage of this change is that the >> Cut/Copy/Paste menu bar items are just the usual C-w/M-w/C-y commands. > > Crap. What's the variable I frob again to turn this off so Emacs stays > away from my clipboard? x-select-enable-clipboard > I kill/yank text in Emacs all day and make heavy use of jumping around > the kill-ring. The clipboard selection is much more ephemeral and > without such history. I just tend to use kill/yank in a different way > than copy/paste. Nothing stops you from continuing to do this, if you don't care about the fact that Emacs is overwriting the clipboard selection (most users won't care since, as you say, its contents are ephemeral).