From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: base Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:34:54 +0900 Message-ID: <874oei66zl.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20100822120642.GA1794@muc.de> <87bp8uzu9d.fsf@mithlond.arda> <871v9o7dmf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wrrg5rzg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r5ho5gyr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hbij6hib.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4nf7ezq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878w3v7dd2.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83wrrfmljv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d3t75crc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282750728 6608 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2010 15:38:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 25 17:38:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoI3o-0004x9-18 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:38:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoI3n-0006OF-Ft for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51594 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoI3g-0006NA-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoI3f-0005SA-Gt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:36 -0400 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.254.161]:59859) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoI3e-0005Rh-Vt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:35 -0400 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19144F4003; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:38:32 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.97.223]) by imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2DAF4002; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:38:32 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097753FA0272; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:38:32 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A01812049A; Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:34:54 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129214 Archived-At: Uday S Reddy writes: > > But wedged history *is* occasionally reported for bazaar. > > Gosh, I don't know what you mean by "wedged". Stuck? Corrupted? Stuck, like in the Southeast Asian monkey trap. Data is in there, probably not corrupt, but the program can't handle it and just throws errors back at you for all high-level commands (commit, merge, maybe even log). Like the problems alluded to here: > http://ww2.samhart.com/node/47 > > where git is being blamed as being the worst culprit in this > regard. Sure, but if you do the arithmetic, the wedging incidents happened in the summer of 2005. git was a product whose first versions were coded in early April of that year, whose first real test was in June, and which didn't get released as "1.0" until December. When Linus handed it over to Junio in July 2005, he considered it ready for "technical users", ie, people ready to dive in and patch the thing if it didn't work. Sam Hart explicitly washes his hands of responsibility to know about git, that was some other developer's job. Not what Linus had in mind as the users git was ready for, eh?