Re: Using gnutls.c by default

[Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>]

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:16:44 +0200 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote: 

RP> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> On Thu, 5 May 2011 13:57:48 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
JB> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 13:50, Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It would be better to wait a week or two until there has been some
>>>> feedback about use of GnuTLS on Win32.
>> 
JB> We're talking about the trunk. Supporting GnuTLS by default is what
JB> will give us feedback, at least on Windows, where (much) fewer people
JB> is expected to build their own Emacs.
>> 
>> So far it's 5 to 1 votes in favor; I think it's badly needed on W32
>> where there are serious problems with the alternatives to GnuTLS.
>> 
>> Note that the user still has to (require 'gnutls) to use it.  We're just
>> adding the library support to Emacs.  Without (require 'gnutls)
>> `open-network-stream' won't use `gnutls-negotiate'.

RP> Oh, I thought Lars was proposing to go further than that, and always use
RP> GnuTLS if available. Makes no difference to my opinion, GnuTLS works for
RP> me :)

After re-reading the thread, you're right.  Sorry for the confusion, I
thought it was just about adding the library support.

So this proposal is to enable GnuTLS support for all the builds,
including W32, and then to make (require 'gnutls) unnecessary because it
will be done by `open-network-stream' by default.  The user has to
explicitly turn off gnutls.el support in order to get the old behavior.

Ted