* Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files?
@ 2011-10-12 19:01 Alan Mackenzie
2011-10-13 2:21 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-10-13 2:23 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Alan Mackenzie @ 2011-10-12 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Hi, Emacs.
I've got a rather largish dribble-file (thanks Michael!) for recreating
a bug. Does anybody here have or know about a tool which can replay
(partially or wholly) such a file, or anything similar?
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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* Re: Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files?
2011-10-12 19:01 Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files? Alan Mackenzie
@ 2011-10-13 2:21 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-10-13 3:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 21:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-10-13 2:23 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Welsh Duggan @ 2011-10-13 2:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan Mackenzie; +Cc: emacs-devel
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Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> Hi, Emacs.
>
> I've got a rather largish dribble-file (thanks Michael!) for recreating
> a bug. Does anybody here have or know about a tool which can replay
> (partially or wholly) such a file, or anything similar?
I asked this a little while ago, and got no response. So I wrote the
following function:
[-- Attachment #2: dribble.el --]
[-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 831 bytes --]
[-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 769 bytes --]
This function reads a dribble file and creates a keyboard macro from
it. It is heuristic in nature. You cannot tell the difference between
`RET' being pressed and the key sequence "<return>" in a dribble file,
along with a couple of other similar things.
Once you have the macro, it can then be edited using M-x edit-kbd-macro
(of `C-x e'). Unfortunately, the macro will stop on any C-g or any
command that raises an error, so the macro must be edited to elide
these.
In this particular case, I have done the work, and I will be posting an
exact recipe for recreating the problem in Bug 9560. (Once nice thing
about using a keyboard macro to replicate the problem is that you can
trim it to look at intermediate state.)
--
Michael Welsh Duggan
(md5i@md5i.com)
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* Re: Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files?
2011-10-12 19:01 Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files? Alan Mackenzie
2011-10-13 2:21 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
@ 2011-10-13 2:23 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2011-10-13 2:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan Mackenzie; +Cc: emacs-devel
> I've got a rather largish dribble-file (thanks Michael!) for recreating
> a bug. Does anybody here have or know about a tool which can replay
> (partially or wholly) such a file, or anything similar?
I don't, but if you do find one, maybe we should include it somewhere.
Stefan
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* Re: Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files?
2011-10-13 2:21 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
@ 2011-10-13 3:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-13 3:51 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-10-13 21:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2011-10-13 3:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Welsh Duggan; +Cc: Alan Mackenzie, emacs-devel
> This function reads a dribble file and creates a keyboard macro from
> it. It is heuristic in nature. You cannot tell the difference between
We should change the code in record_char so as to write an unambiguous
format. E.g. write the space key as " SPC" and add a space in front of
the "<...>" symbols.
Tho a (more verbose) alternative is to use the same format as used
within the [...] vector of a keyboard macro, so you can just add "[" at
the front and "]" at the back and parse it with `read'.
Stefan
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* Re: Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files?
2011-10-13 3:43 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2011-10-13 3:51 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
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From: Michael Welsh Duggan @ 2011-10-13 3:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Alan Mackenzie, emacs-devel
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> This function reads a dribble file and creates a keyboard macro from
>> it. It is heuristic in nature. You cannot tell the difference between
>
> We should change the code in record_char so as to write an unambiguous
> format. E.g. write the space key as " SPC" and add a space in front of
> the "<...>" symbols.
I agree completely. It wouldn't even be hard to do. Unfortunately, I
cannot seem to get a blanket disclaimer from my employer (I can only get
disclaimers on a case-by-case basis), so I will have to leave it to
somebody else.
> Tho a (more verbose) alternative is to use the same format as used
> within the [...] vector of a keyboard macro, so you can just add "[" at
> the front and "]" at the back and parse it with `read'.
That would certainly work. Though I wonder if all the <foo> keys are
all necessarily portable.
--
Michael Welsh Duggan
(md5i@md5i.com)
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* Re: Has anybody got a tool for manipulating dribble files?
2011-10-13 2:21 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-10-13 3:43 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2011-10-13 21:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alan Mackenzie @ 2011-10-13 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Welsh Duggan; +Cc: emacs-devel
Hi, Michael.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:21:26PM -0400, Michael Welsh Duggan wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> > Hi, Emacs.
> > I've got a rather largish dribble-file (thanks Michael!) for recreating
> > a bug. Does anybody here have or know about a tool which can replay
> > (partially or wholly) such a file, or anything similar?
> I asked this a little while ago, and got no response. So I wrote the
> following function:
[ .... ]
Excellent man!
> This function reads a dribble file and creates a keyboard macro from
> it. It is heuristic in nature. You cannot tell the difference between
> `RET' being pressed and the key sequence "<return>" in a dribble file,
> along with a couple of other similar things.
OK.
> Once you have the macro, it can then be edited using M-x edit-kbd-macro
> (of `C-x e'). Unfortunately, the macro will stop on any C-g or any
> command that raises an error, so the macro must be edited to elide
> these.
> In this particular case, I have done the work, and I will be posting an
> exact recipe for recreating the problem in Bug 9560. (Once nice thing
> about using a keyboard macro to replicate the problem is that you can
> trim it to look at intermediate state.)
:-)
> --
> Michael Welsh Duggan
> (md5i@md5i.com)
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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