From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:36:02 +0900 Message-ID: <874nw847lp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87vcosskhc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <831urgr2yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4zgsh2w.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ipks3zbo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87boqk3q69.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87aa634st8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fwfvsgfv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4b4329.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hb0b3yoe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6ED011D5-E185-44C6-BB31-A445A4E5F83A@gmail.com> <87wr976otx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipkq6yy5.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325900179 20110 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 01:36:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 01:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: chad , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 02:36:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLCg-000676-A5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:36:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48760 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLCf-0000rZ-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:36:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52315) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLCd-0000qU-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:36:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLCb-0002z7-RB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:36:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:54159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLCb-0002yx-D2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:36:09 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7919707AB; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:36:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 883581A2FD1; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:36:02 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 2dbefd79b3d3 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147423 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > Last I checked, Emacs wasn't yet an operating system. Comparing kinds of software here is bogus. The question is "what do users want?" Obviously, there is a vocal faction (and I believe it's large) of Emacs users who don't like processes running on their hosts that they didn't explicitly start, and especially not networking processes. But there are also an awful lot of people who would appreciate this service, I'm sure. I think is it quite reasonable to provide the service, default the automatic check OFF in the sources that the Emacs project publishes, and let redistributors make their own choices. However, there are alternative ways to provide notification services, such as providing an RSS feed for the update page, and making that easy to access manually (eg, from the Help or File menus).