From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:17:41 +0100 Message-ID: <874nbg0yfu.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <874nbh2z3y.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <871u6l2ral.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87siz116zo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87mwp90zgi.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87d2q50x58.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <877ggc1k6s.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374941879 29870 80.91.229.3 (27 Jul 2013 16:17:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 27 18:18:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V37Bv-0008E8-P5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:17:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42981 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V37Bv-0002SG-BU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56213) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V37Bm-0002Of-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V37Bg-0006RJ-T6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:17:50 -0400 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:49034 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V37Bg-0006R6-H7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: from nferrier-Dell-System-XPS-L322X (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64027AC00BE; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:20:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nics-xps (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nferrier-Dell-System-XPS-L322X (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA918C27D8; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:17:41 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:25 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162207 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I don't understand what would be different for my implementation >> strategy. When intern is called directly as a function the evaluator >> still knows about file local variables and so can detect whether it is >> in a package or not. > >> What am I missing? > > When intern is called directly, the buffer/file from which the code was > read probably doesn't even exist any more. I do see your point... but that information will have to be persisted such that intern knows whether it is part of a package or not. That's the whole basis of the system I think, that intern have that information. Nic