From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: run/load a lisp script before user init file Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:30:20 -0600 Message-ID: <874n8rhdqr.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> References: <5252D236.8000903@poczta.onet.pl> <83a9il58wc.fsf@gnu.org> <525300A3.1040506@poczta.onet.pl> <8361t86h44.fsf@gnu.org> <52530D84.3000606@poczta.onet.pl> <831u3w6dyk.fsf@gnu.org> <52539DB7.2070807@poczta.onet.pl> <87zjqkjn0n.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <5253AA4C.8020504@poczta.onet.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381253448 1448 80.91.229.3 (8 Oct 2013 17:30:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jarek Czekalski , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 08 19:30:50 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VTb7S-000586-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:30:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38064 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTb7R-000769-M9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:30:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTb7K-00075h-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTb7E-0003cu-U7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:15313) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTb7E-0003b2-M4; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r98HURSg016670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:30:33 -0400 Original-Received: from barimba (ovpn-113-128.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.128]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r98HUKu6018902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:30:23 -0400 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:22:06 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 209.132.183.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164011 Archived-At: GM> I find what Red Hat did was better: GM> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-05/msg00328.html GM> That's the only change you ever need to make to site-start.el. GM> For everything else, add and delete to site-start.d. GM> Emacs does not need to change for this to work. FWIW a long term goal I had for package.el was to have it also manage site-lisp. The idea was to move various built-in Emacs packages to package.el-style activation, so that users could install a newer version in site-lisp and have Emacs DTRT. Distros could easily take advantage of this by ensuring that elisp installed into site-lisp follows the package.el installation rules. This is easy to do... Tom