From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master c6f03ed: Fix a problem in url.el without GnuTLS Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:00:55 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <874mt14wrc.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <20141211155740.11916.1584@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87ppbquo97.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjaurreb.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418338859 11470 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2014 23:00:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:00:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 00:00:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCiw-0007LA-KH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:00:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54571 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCiw-0000WI-74 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:00:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45214) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCim-0000W3-Gt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:00:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCig-0003D2-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:00:32 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCig-0003CW-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:00:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzCiX-0006qf-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:00:17 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:00:17 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:00:17 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gOm/TeMIW0ha5eRgt1TiXwgKuSs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179845 Archived-At: On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 20:08:12 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Leo Liu >> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:47:48 +0800 >> Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> >> why aren't all these -available-p functions replaced by features? EZ> Because the feature might be available, but inoperable (e.g., if some EZ> underlying library is missing). This happens all the times in the EZ> Windows build, where optional shared libraries are loaded dynamically EZ> only when needed, even though Emacs itself was compiled with support EZ> for that library. We will see more of that once we support some kind EZ> of dynamic modules. I made a fix for this one in the emacs-24 branch, and the discussion of bug#19346 has the details. I don't know if it will DTRT for W32 as Eli describes, sorry. For the dynamic modules, it will definitely have to be a general facility. Ted