From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 16:44:50 +0000 Message-ID: <874msf9119.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbanqhe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbl2xigp.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87lhlrx5fc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fxb9821.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87oaqn26vs.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <874msfg6p6.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419785148 1712 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2014 16:45:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 16:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , stephen@xemacs.org, eliz@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 17:45:36 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5GyE-0008Af-Ak for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 17:45:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58840 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5GyD-0005vf-Gk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:45:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Gxw-0005va-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Gxr-0005qO-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:48194 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Gxi-0005Vc-6C; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:45:02 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BE54AAC068B; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:06:09 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4693608A5; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 16:44:50 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <874msfg6p6.fsf@building.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 16:00:37 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180757 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> It's probably more realistic to arrive at acceptable semantics that way, >> but it would likely still be sensible to share transports, general HTML >> parsing and a number of other things (like most of the rendering) with >> eww. > > An HTML-based manual viewer would just be a very thin minor mode on top > of eww. > > Honestly, I have no idea what all y'all are talking about in this > thread, what with the "semantic markup" (why?) and stuff. Texinfo > generates perfectly fine HTML that all web browsers render perfectly. > What's missing is easy access to the index (which is easy enough to > Javascript together) and a search engine (which is the fun bit, but has > nothing (or little) to do with the format or the tools). Semantic markup matters to define the meaning of HTML-Info better such that other tools might generate it. I don't agree that we could "just use eww" for an HTML-Info viewer but shr is an obvious starting point. Nic