From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making --with-wide-int the default Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:47:37 -0700 Message-ID: <874mglpcja.fsf@tromey.com> References: <83oag087gs.fsf@gnu.org> <83oafz70im.fsf@gnu.org> <5620AF43.4050401@cs.ucla.edu> <83k2qn6xfm.fsf@gnu.org> <5620B4FA.1000804@cs.ucla.edu> <83wptojs1r.fsf@gnu.org> <56444C66.8050506@gmx.at> <83r3jugx8g.fsf@gnu.org> <87io56nu0a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lha1dl87.fsf@gnu.org> <871tbrmeu3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447728506 23921 80.91.229.3 (17 Nov 2015 02:48:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, jwiegley@gmail.com To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 17 03:48:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZyWJT-0003SP-7W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 03:48:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55339 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZyWJS-0007yk-Na for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:48:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37411) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZyWJP-0007yD-Qc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:48:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZyWJM-0003SF-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([67.222.38.55]:60977) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZyWJM-0003RQ-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:48:00 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 24344 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2015 02:47:53 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2015 02:47:53 -0000 Original-Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by cmgw3 with id iZnf1r0082f2jeq01Zniox; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 02:47:50 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Caqbutbl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=zstS-IiYAAAA:8 a=PnD2wP_eR3oA:10 a=q5Y1GWT81MIA:10 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=cMSJLnCcDg53EbBxGesA:9 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tromey.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=wgAUVKnINsgLvpIgNr55p7ml4fewVS+FRXoCzwymJFw=; b=GFWTglpd+tDrrQilhBOScqGgl3IWcvYPoo6Iz96+dDeU49zXJ0fDERHwDNQOIaX7dinFomjDe9I37TGXeiBD2Qt5y72giv2REWZDpIbquixvInZz81lheK+HdztknQmM; Original-Received: from [174.16.156.173] (port=53086 helo=bapiya) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZyWJ3-00023B-8W; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:47:41 -0700 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: <871tbrmeu3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun, 15 Nov 2015 17:01:40 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Identified-User: {36111:box522.bluehost.com:elynrobi:tromey.com} {sentby:smtp auth 174.16.156.173 authed with tom+tromey.com} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 67.222.38.55 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194622 Archived-At: David> Of course, doing this properly might also mean less work for moving to David> arbitrary-size integers eventually (probably using the Lisp_Int1 tag David> when the 28-bit range does not suffice), though that one will likely David> need a lot of converting `eq' -> `eql' in the Lisp code base. Preserving the eq/eql distinction seems pointless. It's a leaky abstraction with no real gain for Emacs Lisp developers. I think it's better to just make `eq' treat bignums as values, and then don't bother changing all the exist elisp. Tom