From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Emacs 26.1 released Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 11:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: <874lio1965.fsf@chopper> References: <87lgc3j29t.fsf@petton.fr> <8760341amh.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527757837 8210 195.159.176.226 (31 May 2018 09:10:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 09:10:37 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 31 11:10:33 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fOJbM-0001wN-TK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 11:10:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42728 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOJdO-0001lj-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 05:12:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48799) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOJcl-0001lL-3r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 05:12:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOJch-00083H-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 05:11:59 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([194.9.95.112]:18376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOJcf-00080Q-Uw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 05:11:55 -0400 Original-Received: from s554.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s554.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1604E1F1C0A5 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 11:11:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from s499.loopia.se (unknown [172.21.200.97]) by s554.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA7B794C4C for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 11:11:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from s549.loopia.se (unknown [172.21.200.105]) by s499.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E970D1358E8C for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 11:11:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se Original-Received: from s500.loopia.se ([172.21.200.105]) by s549.loopia.se (s549.loopia.se [172.21.200.137]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2JtLVdqqWmcO for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 11:11:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: joakim.verona@chimeslab.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 81.170.223.63 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (h-223-63.A149.priv.bahnhof.se [81.170.223.63]) (Authenticated sender: joakim.verona@chimeslab.se) by s500.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91E84A88BEB for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 11:11:46 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <8760341amh.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Thu, 31 May 2018 10:40:22 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 9.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 194.9.95.112 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225843 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > Bob Friesenhahn writes: > >> On Mon, 28 May 2018, Nicolas Petton wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Version 26.1 of the Emacs text editor is now available. >> >> I tried configuring this new Emacs like >> >> ./configure '--with-xwidgets' >> >> on a somewhat old (but still supported) Ubuntu 14.04 LTS release but >> encounter this error: >> >> configure:12632: checking for WEBKIT >> configure:12639: $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors "$WEBKIT_MODULES" >> Package webkit2gtk-4.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. >> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `webkit2gtk-4.0.pc' >> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable >> No package 'webkit2gtk-4.0' found >> >> There was no mention in the release notes that versions still in heavy >> use were being abandoned and that Emacs could only be built on >> brand-new Linux releases. > > That=CA=BCs a somewhat unfair statement: emacs 26 works fine on Ubuntu > 14.04 as far as I know, it=CA=BCs just the xwidgets support that doesn=CA= =BCt, > so in no way is there any 'abandonment' going on. > > The change should perhaps have been mentioned in NEWS, but I believe > xwidgets is still classed as experimental, so perhaps not. > >> This system comes with libwebkitgtk-3.0-dev. It is prohibitive to >> attempt to install anything newer since the whole software stack would >> need to be replaced. > > Emacs moved to the WebKit2 API in October of 2016. I=CA=BCm assuming there > were good reasons for not trying to support the older API as well. I=CA= =BCm > also assuming there were good reasons for nobody running Ubuntu 14.04 > to attempt to build emacs with xwidget support since then. Initially there was an attempt to support both gtk2 and gtk3, but it was difficult, so the gtk2 support was abandoned. It is not impossible in principle though, just not doable with the existing resources. Also, the state of emacs webkit support should not reflect badly on the rest of emacs. > > Robert > --=20 Joakim Verona joakim@verona.se +46705459454