From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Two problems with directory-local variables
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:38:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874leldw44.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy3bzblj6.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:15:07 -0400")
>>> On this note, while I don't use the commands myself, I've often wished
>>> that add-dir-local-variable would generate the dotted-pair syntax,
>>> because I've often seen confusion about the syntax of dir-locals arising
>>> from dotted vs non-dotted possibilities, and I feel strongly that the
>>> dotted syntax is the most readable for these files.
>
> Agreed. We should probably have a `print-alist` kind of function for
> that purpose and then try and make use of it from add-dir-local-variable.
>
>> I don't know if something exists that could allow printing dotted syntax for
>>
>> (pp-to-string '(eval message "hello"))
>>
>> In its implementation I see the references to print-escape-newlines
>> and print-quoted, but there is no print-dotted.
>
> I don't think we could add a print-dotted because as you say we don't
> want (eval . (message . ("hello" . nil))) and only the human coder can
> know which cons cell should be printed dotted and which shouldn't.
Examples in (info "(emacs) Directory Variables") recommend dotted syntax
for alists on the first level:
((nil . ((indent-tabs-mode . t)
(fill-column . 80)))
(c-mode . ((c-file-style . "BSD")
(subdirs . nil))))
as well as for the second level:
(("src/imported"
. ((nil . ((change-log-default-name
. "ChangeLog.local"))))))
Taking into account the original problematic case with `eval',
dotted alist should be also on the third level:
(("src/imported"
. ((nil . ((eval
. (message "hello")))))))
Given that, I don't see what would be a good choice for generalization:
1. Since requirements for this feature are too vague, it doesn't seem
to fit well into low-level printing functions.
2. Reformatting the printed output in pp-buffer to add dots where necessary
also doesn't look like an elegant solution.
3. Implementing print-alist poses a question how to define at which levels
to print alists with dotted syntax.
4. Since only add-dir-local-variable knows the semantics of used data
structures, the simplest way would be to implement printing of each level
explicitly in add-dir-local-variable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-19 22:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-17 8:08 Two problems with directory-local variables Marcin Borkowski
2018-09-17 9:28 ` Phil Sainty
2018-09-17 15:45 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-09-17 23:15 ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-18 0:04 ` Phil Sainty
2018-09-18 0:19 ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-18 2:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-19 22:38 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2018-09-20 1:42 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-20 20:59 ` Juri Linkov
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