From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: eww and bookmarks Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 06:28:20 +0200 Message-ID: <874ks4mye3.fsf@web.de> References: <87k1163jz5.fsf@gmail.com> <87zha21i17.fsf@gmail.com> <87pnau45wp.fsf@web.de> <87pnatlo1h.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="9764"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Noam Postavsky , Drew Adams , Emacs developers To: Matthias Meulien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 25 06:31:49 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jd4mD-0002TP-Pl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 06:31:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49562 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jd4mC-0007ch-L3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 00:31:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jd4iz-0006wF-MA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 00:28:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:40003) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jd4iy-00061W-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 00:28:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1590380901; bh=/h1zhOXxLsT2lGKyRPwW41TtMN0pXhq9h8gJYeCeZW8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=FkQxisG1GXKh1K24S8HpQ/nN4/zLfSVfBnN2gLFZz+HvjF6QB+KF8tzJVsfGUEUsh DbejbhFvtfLgdEjGZX9buXrM20IuiMaOItShkHDtUW1qG49kyn8iaGNZgY1v23YLdB uz3hCMkGDA54qDnlwsPe0hqIc0ES/OKdSzmcIxWo= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.98.100.187]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1McZjd-1j2dRZ47Mz-00d0q6; Mon, 25 May 2020 06:28:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pnatlo1h.fsf@gmail.com> (Matthias Meulien's message of "Sun, 24 May 2020 10:44:58 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ndYgHvM04P5QGu/xoNzJAD/3XnTJU5y04KnFZDwRaAhvsF2NkH9 155x4c/X7BU/2nRBVCy+p1Rj2SAbMStiwH5cdp8WZ4qZdNjFQJNGn4F1zhH1yT6So92PkMu o8L0478yd39w/+wE+gKYXFA4dFP4A1g/qFdQF0Jb/DWx4/jW8aa4Ko0iyUOb1A6zK7Q6Y0k /kOiBqTqFQvRAxJDrDniw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:TICr9J54MaQ=:qcBBQuLXW9hYGg/kJqgt+Y aA4WIWWBqj2qqOYseP520VIfHyr5LLJkYeSE7Q/u6dlBIDnZDSXw4eMNYeUD3wNlPzsGEBcKj uHzDxqQJC/TLwWZ3dJTL7Hn0b5djIHSKcIs3OZgMGz7D/FEBIWmIUu3CKog0J3kzSC/RJnBrO 5PVG2h3cKJUyOXpXRZzE3FC9+9cIBNnyItp9ByXxr8Laga/4tnNeE1JB5YE4zeGMI5fMorh5d XeZgQ78HaUh07zJatxfmOnizN+GCjgERz1lPHOeQLXgJQxPR+E+sz9DZUjm8AvAQaBPddgPYp JwNWQdYuL1uUuR6pnCuu0c1sGKSEV72Up58UbVXN1fyUhPpyAul11s3DSOr3bqmwKU21lHsCp +5YAMv3AwWAPSchgMZ6W0eETbSrGt3J+e8P4fI/uzDVE7KZp5Y5QbUoy5GCfdqyKJdJkFk70/ 4v09fWgw6bqXmMc3PGP9adX9ntNTN4UI+NR6ZsPw1YpOT7bwW9UPBMZDbdDNN91GzKLy60bNz hsgQ7U45zwVcZ9L37X1s7x2z3GIDSflQQLhwodm2zI2HEVJlomNq24pnN56ddOM3pM+y20ucm 5fW1UJVoCLnY32TRgWMx1eEptbWEPdcGEnLfnHpN9QS6AXZjpTbMQgJEOnnDCiWxcS64tZ0D8 /da9YOYszH4l3t2/amUVmlBo8Coax2SbCjFqSrg0HmjNh0xsqDIK/c07cDm5ZTdm66u9mMNBQ RMJAvfSnaGSJtoDxZgJnVN/S5u7o8A8ildI1Wiy/nL0hwh8HnbnIIRHbEVkVGe4jMDr2+neH Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.14; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/25 00:28:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251339 Archived-At: Matthias Meulien writes: > > How should the bookmarks behave? Should they be exact counterparts > > of eww bookmarks? > > I went through what eww info manual says on bookmarks and used those > bookmarks once to understand what is the provided feature; I can't > find anything not available from standard bookmarks. Can you give > details on what would be lost if eww used bookmarks.el? I don't think anything would be lost. My setup is very different (I'm saving Internet-related bookmarks in firefox and consult them from Emacs), so I want to find out what a behavior users expect/prefer. > > Should they be linked to eww, or should it be possible to open them > > also with another browser (e.g. w3m). > > May be use `browse-url-default-browser`, but it's a different > discussion IMOH; The current need is to make the user life simpler > with a single place to search their bookmarks Yes, but we need to specify some handler for the bookmarks, so it's something to decide now. > > Finally, what should I specify as `defaults' list for the name > > suggestions available when you are prompted for a name for a new > > bookmark? Just the url? > > An HTML document may have a "title" element; Isn't it possible to use > the value of that element when available? And the URL otherwise. I'll have a look. Thanks, Michael.