From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mario Lang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: backup-by-copying-when-linked Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:15:18 +0200 Message-ID: <874kokndx5.fsf@blind.guru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38570"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 30 21:16:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kCSoI-0009sL-Kh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:16:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37476 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kCSoH-0002kk-N6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 15:16:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kCSnZ-00027j-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 15:15:29 -0400 Original-Received: from familiekainz.at ([37.187.20.171]:54352 helo=ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kCSnX-0003Th-Ku for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 15:15:29 -0400 Original-Received: by ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu (Postfix, from userid 110) id 1CF4A2F9; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 19:15:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blind.guru; s=mail; t=1598814921; bh=LIEj2pMP5I1oq6o8YTXJFZ0NyhBs7G2hEPtHQ85ZhOg=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=O3Sp3jBPW9buF17BD3zXVmYz/tWF5dCJJwCV3f2MPiJy4s0EtTGnA0WTZ7gDe/3LQ XX5PirEsv3DIqt3Un2GR85+tPv0S0a0Oj48o/64Bz7jP5+Yzhbq9LvtiTC3rz7I+w8 moCCPDKOgqBuU1vRL7fQ6qjFKezcVNN1BNKLRMIg= Original-Received: from x1.blind.guru (vra-172-19.tugraz.at [129.27.172.19]) by ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1666E2D0 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 19:15:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blind.guru; s=mail; t=1598814920; bh=LIEj2pMP5I1oq6o8YTXJFZ0NyhBs7G2hEPtHQ85ZhOg=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=HjpG2tCIqjp+IEbhENEouh/tUuBxf6nmOvlVKgwH2tqr1wr4voqaS84iRkBc/4YnS 1PkxWgr+Ef1aGg2CcWAeMa020CWi98EgpZ2FlfJ8/gK0UhddFGDlbcbWKQuBQaXWmL 3/H6kScw9Lz0UYuQ6XBht6l7gpNmjwzWB2PhRNP8= Original-Received: by x1.blind.guru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B9DDE80CC9; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.187.20.171; envelope-from=mlang@blind.guru; helo=ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/30 15:15:24 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TRACKER_ID=0.1 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254412 Archived-At: Hi. I was recently bitten again by Emacs destroying hard-links when saving. I have to admit, I consider this default behaviour pretty rude. What is the rationale for such a default? And, can we perhaps find a way to change this such that saving a hard-linked file doesn't undo the link? --=20 CYa, =E2=A1=8D=E2=A0=81=E2=A0=97=E2=A0=8A=E2=A0=95