From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mario Lang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:25:15 +0200 Message-ID: <874ko8wu8k.fsf@blind.guru> References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14074"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 10:26:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYxB-0003Wh-5l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:26:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36964 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYxA-0006Ob-8Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:26:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60702) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYwQ-0005wU-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:25:26 -0400 Original-Received: from familiekainz.at ([37.187.20.171]:48334 helo=ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYwN-0001kt-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:25:25 -0400 Original-Received: by ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu (Postfix, from userid 110) id D44911D79; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 08:25:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blind.guru; s=mail; t=1599553518; bh=vi1b0X0oTLhhW6N8ZmMgTZFXyP1ih5Au95zvRgCl8ME=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=TTTYdQ7W8kdv/yypBZDkmJ26aBbP9FsJMRFjoo/AOj1QxIYaBXGWNfaglJGs/e95e b+wPRLEx/cZfjoVSl/Hzas0wpYZvEvoXhZ/GtU54d/DD9HPQoNGGvBS187I1GS3d48 XIBNoLUtep09W1z4i5EmNkzulxlLxIRNENPlXHvc= Original-Received: from x1.blind.guru (zidpc777.tugraz.at [129.27.7.77]) by ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFF641D57; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 08:25:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blind.guru; s=mail; t=1599553516; bh=vi1b0X0oTLhhW6N8ZmMgTZFXyP1ih5Au95zvRgCl8ME=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=QLZLxd/AbOZMaWBRFCFfYYu33rXXO5Hz8Nf4uwqQnSQORBmdS41uj68ToAkOfhKmb j1HUpK/vWWfbmJI8EcZ+oZwfdb9iSb4r5euaGvNbrPMePjKYcOfF8iPef+uaKKP1Qa 9BYcu96GrL7NoB1G9WOD9Oci2Sq30PqKfATIIgl4= Original-Received: by x1.blind.guru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 197E5E80CA3; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:25:15 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> (Ergus's message of "Sun, 6 Sep 2020 15:37:19 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.187.20.171; envelope-from=mlang@blind.guru; helo=ns3035380.ip-37-187-20.eu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/08 04:25:19 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254707 Archived-At: Ergus writes: > 3) Substitute list-buffers with ibuffer: This is actually in the TODO > but for interactive users ibuffer offers a bit more modern > experience. So the proposition is just to set ibuffer to the default > bindings as so far it already offers all the list-buffers' > functionalities. +1 > 4) Enable display-line-numbers-mode by default. Almost all editors > around have line numbers by default why we hide them? No, please don't. Maybe I am already too old, but I don't know what these other editors you are talking about would be. I never saw vim or nano do that by default, and I am grateful for that. --=20 CYa, =E2=A1=8D=E2=A0=81=E2=A0=97=E2=A0=8A=E2=A0=95