From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: on helm substantial differences Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:03:20 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <874kln6nqf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87wnymda5g.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87ima5he8j.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87mtzfzt9a.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24924"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, andreyk.mad@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, Stefan Monnier , Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 18 10:14:36 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kfJXu-0006LE-QV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:14:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35720 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfJXt-0001XN-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:14:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33068) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfJXF-0000Tw-D4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:13:53 -0500 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:53423) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfJXC-0002c3-U5; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:13:53 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.97.46 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-97-46.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.97.46]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0C711C0006; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 09:13:38 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:14:03 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.197; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay5-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/18 04:13:46 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259334 Archived-At: > If I may comment on (not related to above paragraph) the attached .png > picture is that minibuffer enlarged very much over the screen. What > would happen if the screen would be split in two windows before > completion, would then the very narrow scratch buffer on top be > divided with another mode line? In that case both divided windows > would be very narrow and not readable. Sometimes at least the focused > window should be readable during completion as completion is very > general for programmers who may need reference in the window they are > working in. > > Large minibuffer window practically splits window in 2 parts, one very > narrow, minibuffer very high. In this case your *scratch* buffer, > would it have more text, would not be usable at all as it little would > be visible. > > My suggestion is that minibuffer rather makes proper split window by > default or that it does not enlarge over the screen more then > the calculated half of the full window, as that way user would have > visible buffer. > > My suggestion for Emacs that already has 2 split windows is that > minibuffer completion does not resize the focused window as that is > where user works and expects (probably) to maybe insert something into > that buffer or use it as reference during completion. Rather > minibuffer should use the unfocused other window (from two or more > split windows) to show its completions then enlarging itself over the > screen and effectively disturbing the visual static interface. I suggested you to customize this easily by one-liner: (push '("\\`\\*Completions\\*\\'" nil (window-height)) display-buffer-alist)