From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Experimentally unbind M-o on the trunk Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 16:24:05 +0100 Message-ID: <874kiljmcq.fsf@gnus.org> References: <8ed9b43502ae1480e06b@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5963"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 16:25:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9UtK-0001R3-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 16:25:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55778 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9UtH-0002g8-CG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 10:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37218) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9UsL-0001pa-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 10:24:25 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:49606) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9UsJ-00028l-4O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 10:24:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=AuUXBMxdTBV2CcvBA54+ej2pn9JMJ6DScCfQcOoBHCc=; b=u4bzsPb1hrgnpvKD6NNwFUZRtk 6auWX158szSIiQ+iyLP6rHt7CW5ITCmT0erOOuuWJBqOgMrExelB0AKATUTR+t3uO/8PJvqWR6E+J 6Gan9ckTJwuYsqlz2PNzxV0v82Glc4QvrY0bdsyIMAJo8PA8pzhTCzFws9P5uIZAaG1s=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Us2-0004ps-V4; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 16:24:17 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAIVBMVEXKEBrSESPYKC6Z EBVSCxEfBwttCxJoKimMSkh8Q0D////HQmIzAAAAAWJLR0QKaND0VgAAAAd0SU1FB+UCCQ8UFyu0 KdQAAAGoSURBVDjLdZNNTuQwEIUTBbGGuQFzgkYevG6JcnyAuGALStpodiyC3KxnpE7fIMedqvJP wqR5y/flxVXPSVX/zPpxd3e7qMqqb7/oplrpC6u+ixS7Ump3CTRg0N1fAAZJbrcB9QEdsW4LHtB+ oHu5AJ5PAY9/6s0ZV8/zMUzj63YPO0/TOTxuwXma5umvfd3sEebpPI2w/x8ofZzP8yWgfp9CGO37 FryFED5PoV65jVKN9wOCDca+LH2Tr67bASy60YZ9tnfsMzABnQ1jt7ycpR1Iv4BdtAqQclldcgqA DJoV6L03mIFagKZZC3hSugDvOZH0pL28u4r+Cqg+JbSAwwKUoIpdAD+4hFx80BMYAKDlrmLCZ8A+ RbxPiQIAEonnQwYDZNEhDrH1IKdWxW8hJpIWAHQIvc1tQKsRf3VmDWK8v3YG3KGAPBXsmv7B0E9C O0WQ9EiArkuATCUul0NA8S4yIAEpV+rkkgaZigIt30evpekCWtlcyieg+4FLNm6IzclFSYA+OR4I U6VpKr5gwwa46OdxOePTs6ldAPkA45KytjGyIH6jf75JBbLZywoVAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0 ZQAyMDIxLTAyLTA5VDE1OjIwOjIyKzAwOjAwv4337QAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0w Mi0wOVQxNToyMDoyMiswMDowMM7QT1EAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Sevdaliza's _ISON_: "Replaceable" In-Reply-To: <8ed9b43502ae1480e06b@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:30:05 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264221 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: >> That is, I propose that we remove the `M-o' binding on the trunk for >> one month, and see how many (if any) complaints we get. >> > > Perhaps replacing its binding with a message "The M-o key has been > experimentally unbound, please M-x report-emacs-bug if you need it" > would be even better? Or perhaps refer to emacs-devel? I'm not sure whether any choice here would skew things one way or the other (i.e., what annoyance level do we wish to get feedback on)? Anyway, I had a look at that keymap for the first time ever, and: Global Bindings Starting With M-o: key binding --- ------- M-o ESC Prefix Command M-o b facemenu-set-bold M-o d facemenu-set-default M-o i facemenu-set-italic M-o l facemenu-set-bold-italic M-o o facemenu-set-face M-o u facemenu-set-underline M-o M-S center-paragraph M-o M-o font-lock-fontify-block M-o M-s center-line There's more commands there! I had no idea -- I though all of `M-o' was just a facemenu thing... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no