From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:32:09 +0100 Message-ID: <874kibh9mu.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6s6bkrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtw6bkjo.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7qbjn2.fsf@gnu.org> <87eehi820x.fsf@gnus.org> <83v9at9xel.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnv8xlqa.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7o9g90.fsf@gnu.org> <87im6revhq.fsf@tcd.ie> <83im6r98qd.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0r7uade.fsf@gnus.org> <83eehf978r.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft1vu9hd.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7n95pf.fsf@gnu.org> <8735xvu7sx.fsf@gnus.org> <834kib94ha.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7987"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:9RgtWCmo8sZePi2qbeLDAYulDoM= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 00:33:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lC9qW-00020M-4y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:33:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51950 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC9qV-0001rw-7S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:33:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC9pJ-0001NA-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:32:18 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:37018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC9pI-0001ok-71 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lC9pF-0000aY-Qb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:32:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264960 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Imagine user confusion and frustration when a command that is known to > Help cannot be invoked! Why would the user wish to invoke a command that makes no sense on the context he is working on? On the best case, the command will just throw an error. At worse, it will mess up things. > My suggestion to change the sorting order instead of actually > filtering out candidates would at least avoid that danger. The danger you are talking about is saving the user from having to search among thousands of irrelevant commands and/or firing himself on the foot. After all, we also hide the menus of modes when they are not active on the current buffer.