From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:45:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874kiaobzn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnpuH9xxBQUNJvB+wsc5xXboCSov8PeoiytVDGdHJymkA@mail.gmail.com> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2021 05:16:09 -0500")
>>>> As for verbosity, it's not like there weren't any suggestions to
>>>> reduce the number of annotations either (like tying command
>>>> definitions to packages, or custom groups, etc).
>>>
>>> And I responded to all of those and said why I thought those were bad
>>> ideas.
>>
>> Then why we are removing :group tags from defcustom? Because they are redundant.
>> Completion annotations are redundant the same way.
>
> Not exactly in the same way, because the overwhelmingly most common case
> with :group tags is that all defcustoms in one file share the same group.
>
> With completion annotations, we have seen ratios from 50-75 %.
I don't know where you see such low ratios. In a typical package like
gomoku.el there are 16 commands tagged with 'gomoku-mode', and 2 untagged.
This is 90% vs 10%.
It makes more sense to make tagging opt-out, i.e. to tag the whole package
like defgroup does. Then tag only a few commands available globally.
Usually most commands in a package are internal, only a few of commands are
entry points. Package entry points are usually tagged with the autoload cookie.
So only 10% of entry points need the `declare' tag, other 90% don't need any tagging.
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2021-02-13 20:04 ` scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 15:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:03 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-15 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 16:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 19:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 20:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-16 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 22:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16 22:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 0:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 11:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 11:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 9:10 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2021-02-17 18:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 8:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 16:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16 22:31 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:53 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-16 22:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 22:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 23:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-17 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:01 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 23:57 ` Rolf Ade
2021-02-16 21:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 8:58 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 21:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 3:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 5:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 10:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:47 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-19 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 12:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 15:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:37 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-02-14 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 16:49 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 17:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 19:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-14 17:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
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