From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Brooks Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Interpret #r"..." as a raw string Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 12:41:29 -0800 Message-ID: <874khxmefa.fsf@db48x.net> References: <20210227.031857.1351840144740816188.conao3@gmail.com> <83pn0mppjd.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgzqz6mu.fsf@db48x.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40758"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, conao3@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 27 21:42:43 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lG6QF-000AT2-1S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2021 21:42:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lG6QD-0006Pu-U4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:42:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lG6PB-0005Rc-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:41:37 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-out-4.mxes.net ([198.205.123.69]:50539) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lG6P8-0005xS-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:41:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Dnz2g4vyFz3cB7; Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:41:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxes.net; s=mta; t=1614458492; bh=oG5tF4GAvF5ncbU7+T7yAe3REvw4zqfYB6locX6meT8=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v7v7fNXxUozxZb+6w1E09xgZvXQy5o3lk+E5P70pDitKEIdARl8h5AOX1XdVo1hDA o6JpEGdkeLUyiH+mPfv7XJJAAHw/ZWZl8QqWI8bOOGUWr0YewE75R21vYkMVqbnhBx P0xPw7ubBsGE2UqJPqse0QO321e5PharI3L6gMJU= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGOfPtRkwAAABJQ TFRFpKfbdou67PD6JjJgAwUWXGSeIcyLHgAAAkZJREFUOI1VU8Fy6yAMxLi+Q13fCZ3cnQL3dqTc 7RD+/1feStDXVnXHDuvVSivZTMba2GPdw3gyCGcMAFxTyrTd9dwGoxHiZX9PmRFUHYAQlGGtXY+F Uk0SJOxgJiUEnH1qkitT9D+pQub7qGAmUbR6bu3CvI96Yv6QqkBBMrsyfZccr1/RDXGDTLf4P7ZY glVxe2V+/ACXWO1gvDO9/gDRpFFVmPluvLcmBjd5H6d8DEte+Pbk4rcY/Fa5tLKLOtCZsuQKYhpa LOkYDT7hESya7/WIET3lfQBqX0pwFtbI832Is0ayMUR9B+12xjgPCQ089cfwkCkX6L5TPmRelJTh zMS0Sz1PyjLAMCUWjcmgQLWQMds+e3aaauZDf9dU9A2/8kPVF2odCUoMKHkfjJR+mbgC+DRiycw5 3XSqGe6HmhN/AWjHypkAXOAFW5EiuA1ge2GiZuMb0s1fSEXcATeLUfbyEY2L8yPOmdSsdghQXx3K pz2eoeXuYvMCINVFDrCdNfVUp4eJ6cSEbjbgFjBEvonGGTrgv9cHjAc8aVgSAPoxaONbzfwhDIhR at7IIS7fAGiDSwIA9alhhTBzfA7YM2FY6eMwayrIGK8FDFmshmUA43WqhFtpvoqG9HHaJ7fqtgTz 8EWVkgZgtsylFliHDgk0MB7KAEC45C/rgnGvanNLXyzOeTzcT2nw/N44gfrtYXRQLoz9Q3TgmJRx 2Mx/Q51qzpm+l3m8z2SWBqC5+PZXAtNYlGFf/gKfHfjFkDT4x7od7R+w3Ls+ZdQBuQAAAABJRU5E rkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:14:55 -0500") X-Sent-To: Received-SPF: none client-ip=198.205.123.69; envelope-from=db48x@db48x.net; helo=smtp-out-4.mxes.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265738 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > Many languages have multiple string types because they simplify the > > process of writing strings that contain quotation characters, > > backslashes, or other syntax such as interpolation. > > I'm trying to understand that message but it's unclear > at a deep level. > > Is a "raw string" supposed to be a different data type, > or is it supposed to be a different syntax for the string type? > > The companison with shell syntax does not help, because I don't think > that question is meaningful for shell syntax. I don't know the othehr > languages referred to. It is definitely just a different syntax for the same data type (although some languages additionally have syntax that distinguishes between utf8 string strings and byte strings with no particular encoding; those generally end up as a different data type). I used shell as an example primarily because it will be familiar to everyone. It is however unusual that shell has a string syntax which disables interpolation but not escaping; most languages with raw strings use them to turn off both features. db48x