From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Brooks Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Interpret #r"..." as a raw string Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 01:51:02 -0800 Message-ID: <874khowqyh.fsf@db48x.net> References: <20210227.031857.1351840144740816188.conao3@gmail.com> <83pn0mppjd.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgzqz6mu.fsf@db48x.net> <83h7ls67rv.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2f2xc4n.fsf@gnu.org> <83tupowuud.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22648"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: matt@rfc20.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, conao3@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 06 10:52:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lITbT-0005nt-MX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 10:52:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43442 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lITbS-0002YP-Oy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 04:52:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lITaY-00027b-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 04:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-out-4.mxes.net ([198.205.123.69]:63377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lITaW-0001d0-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 04:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Dt0Gw2NJzz3cBS; Sat, 6 Mar 2021 04:51:04 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxes.net; s=mta; t=1615024266; bh=91MqHO9B8+94N57Cp4B6/J2+fmmr4Xbq3PkMW1KaLu8=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oE06D/JaF9iQMSBNRD/Mu50VuC/Oq9dEhvk0nkiR+uqhZauO7vDjeqHp4RRdx3DR5 zYVtARpa32yFnCu86WbBQobk8WHNnI5kqEg5cZiNNL7/zCZCJq+S1XqdWkqKdMj6GB KzQ00PsUbFCzkelgILGmxMPdtGn5pmVq+5JWVGZc= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGOfPtRkwAAABJQ TFRFpKfbdou67PD6JjJgAwUWXGSeIcyLHgAAAkZJREFUOI1VU8Fy6yAMxLi+Q13fCZ3cnQL3dqTc 7RD+/1feStDXVnXHDuvVSivZTMba2GPdw3gyCGcMAFxTyrTd9dwGoxHiZX9PmRFUHYAQlGGtXY+F Uk0SJOxgJiUEnH1qkitT9D+pQub7qGAmUbR6bu3CvI96Yv6QqkBBMrsyfZccr1/RDXGDTLf4P7ZY glVxe2V+/ACXWO1gvDO9/gDRpFFVmPluvLcmBjd5H6d8DEte+Pbk4rcY/Fa5tLKLOtCZsuQKYhpa LOkYDT7hESya7/WIET3lfQBqX0pwFtbI832Is0ayMUR9B+12xjgPCQ089cfwkCkX6L5TPmRelJTh zMS0Sz1PyjLAMCUWjcmgQLWQMds+e3aaauZDf9dU9A2/8kPVF2odCUoMKHkfjJR+mbgC+DRiycw5 3XSqGe6HmhN/AWjHypkAXOAFW5EiuA1ge2GiZuMb0s1fSEXcATeLUfbyEY2L8yPOmdSsdghQXx3K pz2eoeXuYvMCINVFDrCdNfVUp4eJ6cSEbjbgFjBEvonGGTrgv9cHjAc8aVgSAPoxaONbzfwhDIhR at7IIS7fAGiDSwIA9alhhTBzfA7YM2FY6eMwayrIGK8FDFmshmUA43WqhFtpvoqG9HHaJ7fqtgTz 8EWVkgZgtsylFliHDgk0MB7KAEC45C/rgnGvanNLXyzOeTzcT2nw/N44gfrtYXRQLoz9Q3TgmJRx 2Mx/Q51qzpm+l3m8z2SWBqC5+PZXAtNYlGFf/gKfHfjFkDT4x7od7R+w3Ls+ZdQBuQAAAABJRU5E rkJggg== In-Reply-To: <83tupowuud.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 06 Mar 2021 10:27:06 +0200") X-Sent-To: Received-SPF: none client-ip=198.205.123.69; envelope-from=db48x@db48x.net; helo=smtp-out-4.mxes.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266063 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, see above (and in general, see the "Mutability" node in the ELisp > manual). > I'm still not sure I understand how to correct that. If using "string > constant" is what is needed, then it's easy to switch to that > terminology throughout. But I'm not yet sure this is the way. I don't think that "constant" is the right word to use. After all, the string that you get from a string literal can be modified just like a string from any other source. I think that "literal" is the right word, because it correctly describes the provenance of the string. The alternatives to a string literal are to call a constructor function such as make-string, or to fetch a string from a buffer, or from input, or some other source. All of these result in a string, but the source of the string can matter a lot. Likewise a "list literal" is the syntax for creating a list by quoting it rather than by calling list. The #s syntax for literal hash tables gives you the same results as if you called make-hash-table. db48x