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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273828 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > I'll just mention this reason that `indent-tabs-mode' > should be OFF by default "nowadays". It's a reason > that wasn't so strong in past years, I think. If that changes, and I miss it in NEWS, I think I'd be in some trouble by now.