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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276474 Archived-At: Protesilaos Stavrou writes: > On 2021-10-06, 17:40 -0400, Stefan Kangas wrote: > >> Angelo Graziosi writes: >> >>> What Protesilaos suggested seems to work and it is what I will use on >>> Windows and macOS. >> >> It seems unfortunate if org-mode will suddenly come with a poorly >> rendered font on a major platform, where IIUC we previously had >> something that was at least okay. >> >> Are the org-mode developers aware of this issue, and what do they have >> to say about it? > > This has been in Org 9.5 since commit 667cb6f1a on 2021-04-27. I had > started the discussion about it in an email from 2020-09-09,[1] in which > I had attached a diff. No one commented on it back then and, to my > knowledge, none has voiced an opinion about the change ever since. Because your patch looked like an improvement ;) > That granted, I now think this is a bad default. Such a feature should > be opt-in, otherwise it can catch users by surprise (as shown in this > discussion---also related is bug#46971 for which I sent a patch with > regard to the modus-themes). > Can Org be patched for emacs-28? How does this work in terms of syncing > with org.git? My suggestion would be to revert commit 667cb6f1a in > org.git, though I am not sure how to proceed. Given the raised concern, you can request reverting the patch in Org ML. That should go to bugfix (=stable) branch. Then, Emacs devs can merge the latest bugfix any time they prefer. P.S. At least for tables, we also have an alternative solution for table alignment in https://list.orgmode.org/8735uos5yj.fsf@localhost/ Best, Ihor