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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277385 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:25:30 +0200, Stefan Kangas = said: Stefan> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> Hm... "key" would also work. It's perhaps more ambiguous, though. Stefan> What ambiguity do you see? I end up with something like this: >> key-define-map >> key-define >> key-global-set >> key-global-unset >> key-local-set >> key-local-unset >> key-lookup Having 'key' as a prefix might induce people to believe that we=CA=BCre talking about "defining keys", when what we=CA=BCre talking about is "key bindings" Stefan> (Note that I prefer "global/local" before "set/unset", but the = other Stefan> way around is fine too.) Hey, this is what completion frameworks are for :-) Robert --=20