From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: could matlab-mode be in ELPA or the GNU emacs tree (like auctex and org-mode)? Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:26:57 +0100 Message-ID: <874k85r3da.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <878rxiu323.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87v90mrkvu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <837dd1syt9.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0h1syd1.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <834k85sy0s.fsf@gnu.org> <87y25hn3rh.fsf@dick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23056"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:F/db8pkfFMjDC0WbIUmiKflMGKk= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 21 15:28:04 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1monp6-0005qx-19 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:28:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36754 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1monp4-0001Ps-Qq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 09:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46998) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1monoI-0000eG-H2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 09:27:14 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:42930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1monoG-0004Lo-Eo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 09:27:14 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1monoC-0004kT-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 15:27:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279850 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>> "d" =3D=3D dick writes: EZ> Why not use the Matlab facilities, which AFAIK are significantly more EZ> powerful and flexible than anything Emacs can reasonably provide? > This question is fatuous given the deep knowledge of its author regarding > emacs and its computing niche. In fact I feel increasily strange of defending the use of GNU emacs on the *emacs dev* list > Emacs knows it cannot hold a candle to specialized editors like Matlab and > Rstudio on features and out-of-the-box accessbility.=20=20 Well I beg to differ, although part of the statement is true, GNU emacs has the huge advantage of being extenable, I often find myself in a situation what while checking matlab files, I need to edit them and the way is to write a simple lisp function, job done. That is hardly possible in say matlab internal editor. > Its selling point has always been UNIX-y interop (cutting and pasting > say to a LaTeX doc) for command line people. Again for me it is its universal swiss knife feature and its extenability, but taste can differ, obviously. > I used matlab-mode right until spring 2015 when Mathworks reformatted the= ir > prompt codes, thereby crippling debug mode. Well it is back, have you a look yourself. And if you are not satisfied, to quote RMS[1], =C2=ABit will be faster if *you* help=C2=BB Footnotes: [1] improvising a bit, not sure about its exact wording. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCE8cw ggWDMIIDa6ADAgECAg9dk40wZzbIBh0ax1SEaQcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwOzELMAkGA1UEBhMC RVMxETAPBgNVBAoMCEZOTVQtUkNNMRkwFwYDVQQLDBBBQyBSQUlaIEZOTVQtUkNNMB4XDTA4MTAy OTE1NTk1NloXDTMwMDEwMTAwMDAwMFowOzELMAkGA1UEBhMCRVMxETAPBgNVBAoMCEZOTVQtUkNN MRkwFwYDVQQLDBBBQyBSQUlaIEZOTVQtUkNNMIICIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAg8AMIICCgKC AgEAunGAekyGbn/IE23Axn0cAJePLAwjuxCaQKkat4eI+JtWavvme46Lko6nJV1ZEds2LrdRFx+p CB8EFyRYqjdKGN/lOdRX/dfBLJEBkeIi1APAWPx3R+yPPnRDuqw0jU04dmeOsMhvMDNYcVy09Wtu 1AFQuBN+bEqjSdEgGe68wCkYZafe/u/dCpAh5xpnkkIQmF9PMLw+HEW0ENdoQBTAQPrndxd65guP 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