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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	ttn@gnuvola.org, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: Re: File names in ChangeLog entries
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 16:11:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874k7qodwn.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k0gnpbdm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 02 Dec 2021 12:08:37 +0200")

On 02 Dec 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
>> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,  Eli Zaretskii 
>> <eliz@gnu.org>,
>>   emacs-devel@gnu.org,  Stefan Monnier 
>>   <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
>>   Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>
>> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 11:12:05 +0200
>> 
>> > *  [master~1208] Save position in mark ring before jumping to 
>> > definition
>> 
>> This is a good example of an unhelpful commit message.
>> There is no way to guess it's about lisp/help-mode.el.
>
>You don't need to guess, you need to look at the rest of the log
>message.  We cannot realistically require that everything about 
>the
>change will be clear from the summary.  Mentioning file names is, 
>IME,
>mostly a waste there, because the file name provides very little
>information about the change itself, and takes quite a lot of 
>space,
>so doesn't allow to say enough about the change.

Agreed.

The point of the summary line is to encapsulate some recognizable 
core thing about the change.  When you're reading over, say, a 
long vertical list of such summaries, you can quickly recognize 
ones you already had some awareness of (and this makes branch 
comparison much easier).

We'll never be able to fit *everything* in a summary line, and 
there's no need to.  If one needs further information about that 
particular change, one can go look at the full message.

Best regards,
-Karl



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-02 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-30 19:19 File names in ChangeLog entries Stefan Kangas
2021-11-30 20:07 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-11-30 22:01 ` Philipp Stephani
2021-11-30 23:24   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-01  3:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 23:56   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-12-01  3:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-30 23:55   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-01  3:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01  3:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 13:39     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-01 13:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 16:51         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-01 17:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 17:28             ` Karl Fogel
2021-12-01 18:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-01 19:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 19:22               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2021-12-01 19:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 20:49                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2021-12-02  6:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 21:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-01 21:50                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-01 22:21                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-01 23:14                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-02  6:43                           ` Karl Fogel
2021-12-02  7:10                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-02  9:12                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-02 10:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02 21:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-03  7:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 12:57                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-03 13:06                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02 22:11                                 ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2021-12-02 11:02                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-03  2:43                               ` Karl Fogel
2021-12-02  7:12                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02  7:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-02  8:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02  6:40                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02 16:59                     ` Matt Armstrong
2021-12-01  6:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt

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