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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283253 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Your argument seems to suggest that it will still be relevant for some > time in certain configurations, not that it's relevance won't > decrease. It'll always remain relevant enough for us to support. Besides, 10 years is awfully optimistic for Wayland adoption. People who want frame placement (i.e. by Speedbar) or session restoration to work correctly will always have to run Emacs inside X (or under Xwayland) as well, because even under Wayland X clients have the ability to arbitrarily position windows.