Uwe> I might give it a try but what is the syntax in teh authinfo file

> The auth-source info documentation has plenty of gory details

I am just digging in, not that clearly written or at least my use case
is not easily found.

Uwe> My original setting is 
Uwe> machine smtp.gmail.com login oub@ucm.es port 587 password passwd
Uwe> machine UCMgmail login oub@ucm.es password passwd port  imaps


Uwe> Tassilo suggested

Uwe> machine imap.gmail.com login USER@gmail.com password APP_PWD force 
yes

> Most fields in .authinfo are optional, so

> machine foo login bar
> machine foo login bar port baz

> are both legal. For gmail I have

> machine imap.gmail.com login USER password APP_PWD port imaps

Ok what confuses me if it is better to use smtps or specifying the port
directly as in 587, or 465.

But I might give it a try either way

thanks