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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291098 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Ihor Radchenko Cc: >> theophilusx@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, >> acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:38:45 >> +0800 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > I really wonder how come no one on the Org list paid any >> attention to > the 10-fold to 40-fold slowdown in the time it >> takes to build the > manual, as result of that change. But >> that's water under the bridge. >> >> We rarely have bugs related to manual builds. I recall two in >> many years. >> >> Usually documentation is built automatically on ELPA and by our >> publishing scripts on orgmode.org. > So basically no one builds Org, including the manual, on their own > system? Even not the Org developers? I build org-mode from git and have noticed the slowness in building the documentation. Weekly building from git is my way of avoiding having to deal immediately with a myriad of changes in past Versions of org-mode. Best wishes.