From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About LaTeX/TeX modes Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 19:07:16 +0200 Message-ID: <874jykgh49.fsf@gnu.org> References: <2025344680.2113516.1659863015529@mail1.libero.it> <868ro0b968.fsf@gnu.org> <86mtcfdfeh.fsf@gnu.org> <25329.5664.292702.538737@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <868rnyst9p.fsf@gnu.org> <25329.11434.724581.806237@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.8.8; emacs 29.0.50 Cc: Per =?utf-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Matthias Meulien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 10 19:13:06 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oLpGQ-000A4v-Ad for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 19:13:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42112 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLpGP-0006CJ-5z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLpDH-0003Ev-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:09:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLpDF-0000wo-RR; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:09:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-reply-to:Date:Subject:To:From: References; bh=5lRKXM9Rluo/ujhO671pnK0pERwkE980Dps8+Ylh6lA=; b=hKmJCQFW3PQcUi l55xGSNAKAepPJSBohypCk3YOhm8WCdeyuM57WQmRTHkYwUvG7RGwDS3O5tprsrVgsnDgUlrVbX0L Klf3rcRq43Zask56SESmiWQdwf+KfRZSMC909VKKkff/cCWlLMxzPj2mL01w657zRhymysh1HqNWv UV3hXp4WXpHPY5ymMfOf4rmLqqrMQs3vXuCtXZcIGxbG85M/u/yfYU4dWvYfmZ3iD5+AlVsQ/GX18 ecjti7AlTvr0iTb8LmWpKSo1JI2xVdastzbgS8DS04WwOCEbZU7Q/NOmyrCWn3td5ATP7q6U2RI4a 6sePfhiTgobViBFzXUnw==; Original-Received: from auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.227]:48909) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLpDF-00024u-2G; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:09:45 -0400 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5AA27C005B; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:09:44 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrvdegvddguddtiecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfhgfhffvvefuffgjkfggtgesth dtredttdertdenucfhrhhomhepvfgrshhsihhlohcujfhorhhnuceothhsughhsehgnhhu rdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedujedtheduvdelffejkeetgedvheelhedvue efhfeukeekkeehvdfggeegffevgfenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgr mhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehthhhorhhnodhmvghsmhhtphgruhhthhhpvghrshhonhgrlh hithihqdekieejfeekjeekgedqieefhedvleekqdhtshguhheppehgnhhurdhorhhgsehf rghsthhmrghilhdrfhhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ib2b94485:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:09:43 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293361 Archived-At: Matthias Meulien writes: >> (...) For what it's worth I still think it would be really good if >> AucTeX was merged into Emacs. Let's avoid the feeling of "when you >> use Emacs you really should first customize it like this and this and >> this". When I use Emacs in demos for students I use a plain no-frills >> Emacs, because I want it to be what they get themselves if they >> install on their own computers, but I've "had to" make an exception >> for TeX, because not using AucTeX would be too hard for me. >> > > My experience is the opposite! The legacy mode worked out of the box, > AucTeX didn't and I faced a huge manual and got lost in tons of > options and new commands to narrow, comment, compile... If it doesn't work out-of-the-box with the AUCTeX ELPA package that's a bug you should report. Bye, Tassilo