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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293789 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=9E=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=B1=E0=AF=81 =E0=AE=86=E0=AE=95= =E0=AE=B8=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AF=8D 21, 2022] Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > "Since this issue found its way on Phoronix and reddit I'm going to > temporarily lock it, to ensure a modicum of decency and avoid lowering > the bar of the comments." > > Anyway, I'm all in favour of defaulting to a no-toolkit build (across > all systems -- the astounding success of VS Code has show that having a > consistent look across systems is much more important than respecting > the look of the OS). > > But we have to fix the no-toolkit look before we can contemplate that. > > [5 points] BTW, I think another item worthy of note is that Lucid menus cannot display multilingual text. See the outline "** Make the Lucid menu widget display multilingual text" in etc/TODO.