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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294025 Archived-At: Visuwesh writes: > FWIW, there is a C implementation of ninja called samurai: > https://github.com/michaelforney/samurai. > > There is also a C implantation of meson called muon: > https://sr.ht/~lattis/muon/. Let's not hurry to replace autoconf. autoconf and gmake work well enough -- they are part of the GNU project, and allow GNU programs to be installed in a single, unified way: ./configure --prefix=/usr make install It would be a shame for Emacs, the flagship of the GNU project, to abandon the standard installation procedure for a GNU program.