From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 11:12:22 +0200 Message-ID: <874jwl8e4p.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <8735c6b0wo.fsf@gnus.org> <87y1ty9lha.fsf@gnus.org> <87lepym6ok.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <877d1i9h7k.fsf@gnus.org> <83edvqyr3q.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9794"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 11:14:34 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofHX0-0002NI-5j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 11:14:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42024 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofHWz-0008U0-5P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 05:14:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofHVB-0007ka-Jb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 05:12:41 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:49738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofHVA-0006y9-9D; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 05:12:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=E889Y1OXkRvgHBFp+erHWuZ/odaOoojqejv99parkA8=; b=nmPDUVkBteor7FEvnk/6r8+HTW zhPWGGM4VpDto+ptZVBo6AdtoN75X/5e73MRAoJSUZPeNbmRfrhySQu/tcSBl6j8szwT8Q67zmQhw JqPQkX+LgxzwmLgbRuFcC2KFkAchHjrrJNHhXxXsExrVzaH89Jzs8Dj7nq9Fgqe68wvU=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=downe) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofHUv-0007pR-Ma; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 11:12:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83edvqyr3q.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 02 Oct 2022 22:15:21 +0300") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEUyJSqZZV+wgnnL pp/x29L9+/n///+noQVCAAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+YKAwkAMH3E7lMAAAGiSURBVDjL lZRbdoQgDIYJMwswOH0XnL5XoAtoxRUU9r+VJtxG7cxD4zkc5DPwJyQK8W8DRIThCUBjjNKY7cDN 7MiMRkPPHtBqCIGQM4o8AAYonoFtC6tz+uAgPK+nQOSkgEFKMTidX+X8IaRbaKbuWyKw2uIAoITE iaejZ5dV17AmOWiVgRgdoeogQKMEXb9CAssjEQqmqu9Gqj6aGDUabOCdTm8AII/l5XMH8mZtxnq/ NHQy1YlMDOpnktS1FFwZ/BR96CY6oJIbg8iBoLI5AnycTcmyg2pBFnBJxaKdrSkOeQRfQbJ0Z7wh lJuctwboGku+C+jrlGHlVxzAmOEMNFK9zEWZSGlPlJ1dLZY9SMFzURTVWzqi1dbw/oIaZngJthfA n4DrZdFSEotiZ9p1yOoSs2+ryJ52Am7jI9zUwXuLm4q1lypf/VtPiCcH3Y9YPxtYxtXZ3m+X4HsI aHbdI8O9rG8xLMr0nQS4cStqQ/pG3LUb5kDigrcYTm04hshtcKXxCIjYPAZ7AiKX2oWjEE+MysPR XpBr+ECoy0z5qyjEXx1Skfhmv1qVAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTEwLTAzVDA5OjAw OjQ3KzAwOjAwqBsaWgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0xMC0wM1QwOTowMDo0NyswMDow MNlGouYAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Eurythmics's _1984 (For The Love Of Big Brother)_: "Greetings From A Dead Man" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296734 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > If we want to consider providing (yet another) user option for > disabling native compilation, then we should: I asked what the user option to disable native compilation was, but didn't get an answer, and here you say "(yet another)", so... what is the current user option to disable native compilation? > . understand why and in which situations they may need it Doing repeatable testing is one obvious situation. > . what exactly needs to be disabled (e.g.: do you want to disable > loading the existing *.eln files?) I don't think anybody has suggested the "e.g." portion, so I'm wondering why you ask? > . understand why the existing options don't already provide > solutions See first paragraph.