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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298101 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > @node Package from Source > > @section Package from Source > > @cindex package development source > > @cindex package upstream source > > @cindex package git source @c "git" is not technically correct > > That improves the @cindex commands. But please look at the whole > manual's index and see where these two show up. If two of them appear > close together, there is no need for both. If they are separated by > several other commands, then it is useful to have both. 3 matches for "Package from Source" in buffer: *info* 1511:* package development source: Package from Source. 1515:* package git source: Package from Source. 1525:* package upstream source: Package from Source. They seem close-by, so I am not sure if it is worth it. > I used to check the whole index for redundant index entries like this > before each Emacs release. I have to admit that I have never used the concept index directly. > > @findex package-vc-install > > One way to do this is to use @code{package-vc-install}, to fetch the > > source code for a package directly from source. > > I contend that `package-dev-source' or `package-upstream-source' > is a better name than `package-vc-install'. So would you have the entire package renamed? I guess "package-vc" or "package-dev" aren't that different, and I'm fine with both names. > They are better because they describe the crucial difference for which > you would use that command: to get the development source rather than > the current release source. It is true that the development source > will usually come from a VCS, but that's an secondary detail, not the > crucial point. > > The current version's source may be stored in a VCS also. Isn't that > normally the case for NonGNU ELPA? Yes.