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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298570 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Philip Kaludercic [2022-10-26 15:28:04] wrote: >> Stefan Monnier writes: >>>> It can be done, but I believe it would be best to add those kinds of >>>> annotations to the server side (elpa-admin.el). The issue is that >>>> figuring out what version was used to release a package is non-trivial >>>> using just vc. >>> >>> FWIW, the more I think about it, the more I think `package-vc` should >>> always use Git locally (regardless of the VCS used upstream). This will >>> also make it easier to share the code with `elpa-admin.el` (e.g. to >>> figure out which commit is the latest release). >> >> I am not sure about that, this would break the contribution workflow for >> anyone interested in sending back patches to a non-Git project. > > AFAIK this is sufficiently hypothetical that I'm really not convinced > it's worth the extra work (and the risk of incompatibilities between > the `elpa-admin.el` behavior and that if `package-vc`, e.g. where they > might disagree on which commit is "the" release). I don't know, to me this sounds more like an argument against merging elpa-admin.el and package-vc.el... > We can try to add some support for other local-VCS afterwards, but it > shouldn't be a priority. So you would say that the support for other VCS should be removed? > Also, AFAIK the `git-remote-hg` adapter and the `git-remote-bzr` adapter > are bidirectional, so they are still compatible with some workflows. Fair enough.