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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299262 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:58:11 +0000 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > And symlinks could be problematic on MS-Windows. Maybe allow to copy >> > instead. >> >> That I did not know. The issue with copying is that you loose vc >> information. > > Why do they need VC information inside ~/.emacs.d/ ? While not strictly necessary, a big part of the motivation of package-vc is the ability to easily work on packages that are usable as regular packages. If I M-x find-function into a ~/.emacs.d/elpa/ and make a few changes, having to distinguish between packages between packages with :lisp-dir attributes and those without seems unnatural. >> When do symlinks create issues under windows? > > Creating symlinks requires privileges that not every user has. Oh, I see. >> Perhaps there is a better way to solve this issue in general? I would >> have to look at how complicated it would be to make package.el load a >> subdirectory instead of the immediate directory under "elpa". > > Yes, that'd be more portable, I think. It looks like it is doable. There might be a few tricky edge-cases, but nothing impossible.