From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Bignum performance (was: Shrinking the C core) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 09:12:00 +0000 Message-ID: <874jl3l31b.fsf@localhost> References: <20230809094655.793FC18A4654@snark.thyrsus.com> <87il9owg0f.fsf@yahoo.com> <83fs4rjq9j.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzu2tvfc.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1ih3mc1.fsf@localhost> <87h6p5kcek.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87msyxoj2t.fsf@localhost> <875y5lkb4b.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87bkfdsmde.fsf@localhost> <87v8dlihc5.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87il9l1i59.fsf@localhost> <87pm3tgpts.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1ig3bog.fsf@localhost> <87y1igjkmi.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17259"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 13 11:12:05 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qV78m-0004GQ-CB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 11:12:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qV78P-0004tn-Gb; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 05:11:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qV78N-0004ta-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 05:11:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qV78M-0002Dd-8x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 05:11:39 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4A64240027 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 11:11:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1691917895; bh=fkYb9ZJUOsFnZpDUTAr+zAAI6mZu5ot4aycaSSH4xfc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=sD14CJ9UOmXXIs4cVnEQgHylvJ4UNzUeNntb3BsFuGRV+D/hW0AQ6zRXLAN8/B1GM DQ3zs28jiA6eFOtvaQAaqERdrN3VKfZFhMBuXWNxDiaVZaRi+Mb1W1lfn8iPwP1Ct4 ZoHaeopRN5ZeN2WhnqZtBBACzjgnduBIakXrNrRwvJIR329acnXt9sndS1/WeKXjIA t8EICWlNo3UpGLqaG0nagyUHvtRvG2gmFZHo/BXFMyUH4oTCquOPPpGp/hWZVa79Jx 6xHKoFskRtatVI4PAyNd9WmT6oVE39ux6A0YCTkNOyZJnwRrAtamIgwXlFx+QXtkya RQDuREUo5rn9g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RNsGb16p6z9rxG; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 11:11:34 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87y1igjkmi.fsf@dataswamp.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308659 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > 4. Actual and existing Elisp code doesn't have to be changed > a lot, and it would still be Elisp only it would be > compiled with the methods from the CL world and in > particular from SBCL. > > 5. This would not be a complete integration between Elisp and > CL, but since the methods, tools and supply chain from CL > would now be working for Elisp, it would be a big step > towards such a possible integration in the future, > if desired. I do not think that it is possible in practice. Elisp and CL internals are different, and you cannot magically overcome this. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at