From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Where / when Emacs on Gitlab? Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 03:11:09 +0100 Message-ID: <874jffpcqq.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87a5pbw2ly.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33546"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:7PXDzxJbMcZbH0W9B4R0IO+0R6A= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 15 04:23:45 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rPDZh-0008XY-5B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 04:23:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPDZ6-0004el-Kp; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:23:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPCRl-0004OQ-1d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:11:29 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPCRj-00021K-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:11:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rPCRf-0003h7-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 03:11:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:23:06 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314982 Archived-At: tomas wrote: > This is an interesting idea; in practice, it is more > difficult than expected. I've observed that several times: > the "medium" (presentation, whatever) does influence > communication style and patterns, and you "feel" bumps at > medium boundaries. It also has pitfalls, e.g. everyone spends time polishing their own workflow clients, and the communication between them, instead of doing actual work on the project. No, if one just cares about everyone being the most productive as they can possible can, I think huge modern GUI systems with little buttons for everything is preferable to people discussing everything like we do with text and e-mails. So instead of saying, "thank you, that worked" on just pushes a button to indicate problem solved - much like the SX sites has been operating a long time by now BTW. One would then go on to integrate everything even more and eliminate ever single bottleneck. However it will be the corporate streamlined conveyor belt way of doing things, with no room for anything else. It will just be about productivity, the production of code as good and as fast as possible and that is it. And soon AI will enter those systems as well. But it still possible for a project like Emacs to continue using git and mailing lists the way it is done today even in the near future, since that is something that generally appeals to people that are typically appealed by Emacs. Even in the distant future, there will be people appealed by that but yes, I think they will be fewer and fewer. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal