From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Bryant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 23:23:29 +0000 Message-ID: <874jetaxri.fsf@jeremybryant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18093"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: justin@burkett.cc, Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 01 00:29:36 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rVK1P-0004Uu-U5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 00:29:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVK0J-0004W3-2w; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 18:28:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVK0H-0004VG-BV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 18:28:25 -0500 Original-Received: from out-171.mta1.migadu.com ([95.215.58.171]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVK0F-0004Ev-9V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 18:28:25 -0500 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jeremybryant.net; s=key1; t=1706743699; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=4Zv7BLsJWnkQhhD6acv6Lq8YCwhGqJ9mbJiD1EJavL4=; b=nVhmyiPV2lcwWxoTmIQm7jRcRIVWlqE2q236CSkmT1Am99LQVvuloRdefCzPP0YWO8kubI 3Cblmz0SP0bCxvZBPC76q9sf+n1nJBWP2yYBrSfHh9z3FWsTVfWd1XCm0PNoNQmgYBvvDk ILnWCiSxY8xHjjJvAVb9GjKEaCOYB15E32p7qtxVC5hsqSYOeb53oi4hX2BigZ1sd4eq0Y +XPA4hDNwH0tuJNpAKu1XTVzfg5lo3Qn84n97coNDrCuBK4Qbl/12P2wIjaRvz7YtBirXa HCAqdXdHA4pJVpSFb2ZsZ2vom8WbD+uTF2N72NLEE1KJUapvxS+0VgAmxnIrpQ== X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.215.58.171; envelope-from=jb@jeremybryant.net; helo=out-171.mta1.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315685 Archived-At: A recent theme of discussion has been improving discoverability of Emacs features, and in a related way, 'better defaults'. Here is a suggestion - include which-key in core and potentially enable by for new users. I understand it is in ELPA already. Author Justin has expressed openness to the idea in https://github.com/justbur/emacs-which-key/issues/355 What do people think? What work needs to be done and how?