Re: Re Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?

[Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>]

Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com> writes:

>> >>> And while we're at it: There are sometimes requests for adding AUCTeX
>> to
>> >>> core.  Do you have an opinion about that?
>> >>
>> >>I don't mind.  But let's hear what others think.
>> >
>> > Well, AUCTeX was so feature-bloated that made me start using vanilla
>> Emacs
>> > and writing the things I really needed myself. So grateful it existed,
>> > because it made my elisp evolve :-)
>>
>> This sounds like a LaTeX/AUCTeX-specific issue.  IIUC, you prefer the
>> built-in latex-mode that AUCTeX supersedes, right?  Or what do you mean
>> by bloated?
>>
>
> Jup, that was a purely LaTeX issue. And yes, I didn't have time to learn
> all the specifics
> of AUCTeX and did some customisation + yasnippets to get my phD thesis
> written.
> At that time, a switch from MSWord/OpenOffice to LaTeX was churning all my
> free CPU cycles,
> because I had work and real life in parallel.

[...]

> WRT the package size, I wouldn't worry that much.  Even a large package
>> like AUCTeX is just under 10MB in my /elpa/ directory.  The mean package
>> side on ELPA is about 100-150KB.  Packages like Debian that don't
>> bundled .el sources (instead just using .elc) by default might be even
>> better off.
>>
>
> But just keep in mind that there are situations, where the platform must
> deploy
> Emacs on, might not be as relaxed WRT disk space... And it's not about a
> specific
> package, it's about a trickle of packages becoming a flood...

I can imagine that a distribution like Debian can choose to distribute
two package.  The regular Emacs, that would bundle the selected ELPA
packages and "emacs-minimal" that wouldn't (and perhaps even remove some
more, like games or some stuff like that).

>> My .2 cents
>>
>> --
>>         Philip Kaludercic on peregrine
>>
>
> Best, /PA

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