From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-l while in menu? Date: 25 Apr 2002 19:22:43 +0900 Organization: The XEmacs Project Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <873cxkcc24.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <200204072343.g37NhIC20114@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204201727.g3KHRD401381@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204220746.g3M7kvY01878@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204220928.g3M9S9H32293@rum.cs.yale.edu> <3CC40A74.5040600@666.com> <3CC525C5.70400@666.com> <200204250606.g3P66RF03821@aztec.santafe.edu> <87znzsciej.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019730308 6996 127.0.0.1 (25 Apr 2002 10:25:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org, ben@666.com, Pavel@Janik.cz, monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu, gerd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170gR1-0001oj-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:25:07 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 170gT8-0006MX-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:27:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170gQu-0005RW-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:25:00 -0400 Original-Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.98.109]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170gPV-0005GY-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:23:33 -0400 Original-Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 170gOj-0000xE-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:22:45 +0900 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.51 (Python 2.1.3 on Linux/i686) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3246 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3246 >>>>> "Kai" =3D=3D Kai Gro=DFjohann wr= ites: Kai> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >> But it _does_ override the M-f command for users who set >> `modifier-keys-are-sticky' Kai> The behavior I described (M-f does forward-word, but f Kai> invokes the file menu) should be available as one option Kai> amongst several. It should not be the only option. Kai> Do you agree? Yes. I merely want to point out that there is a class of users where the override happens, and to suggest that we should give that group a fair amount of weight. They are numerically relatively small, but many are more or less disabled, and may not have the option to chord (M-f). I haven't looked at this issue carefully, but the current implementation in XEmacs looks flexible enough. --=20 Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac= .jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JA= PAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.= py