From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcelo Toledo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Spam prevention Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:56:14 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <873c7ixcdt.fsf@kali.intranet> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081202897 32191 80.91.224.253 (5 Apr 2004 22:08:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 06 00:07:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BAcG6-0006Eq-00 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:07:58 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BAcG6-0001pJ-00 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:07:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BAcFG-0007EI-Th for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BAcEL-0006ro-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:06:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BAcDo-0006ez-9w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [200.213.197.161] (helo=hm61.locaweb.com.br) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BAcDn-0006dr-IE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:05:35 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 31401 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2004 22:05:27 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (10.1.10.10) by hm61.locaweb.com.br with QMTP; 5 Apr 2004 22:05:27 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 31701 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2004 22:05:32 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kali.intranet.marcelotoledo.org) (marcelo@marcelotoledo.org@200.164.20.55) by hm10.locaweb.com.br with SMTP; 5 Apr 2004 22:05:32 -0000 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUREBKVenaCZF94VlBp TEhXPzzH0uJJMS+5w9gzIiKEqtMzAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEgAACxIB0t1+/AAA AAd0SU1FB9MGCwAYJycum7IAAAH+SURBVHjavVO5bttAECUCGMGWOwICtTtL5Si1s4ThLuBRuEwk gfEPCCptwQHBUh3LRWiC2L/NLGNHqyNtCJDFPL735kyS//mIf8Z94q4BToirJDe9FxThJoYX4oqD F975Sxc/Nq33/vx/kQzr0lZVfUHxa4Na26o+A8TPghCRys0ZZdgYRECylTsDVoRKgaasPVUaC6OU VKz14E5KGRiQUuq6aWMtEQCOQ72mVsQmbqjKfC6BU749YYhmbNashWmZPbqvEcPniBynuirbIYu0 RtRkkLCydP8rjxgvtMk1EaDRVa8jk5esYiDj8jF7AhcBlsDmtpiAiPE4EBoys5xrsc/pEfjSk0a9 BOIqF/3iCNCzQTlTklOWdv/pCHyz3CoA0AykT3dHYH/LrQKjtJGg48a/mwCUQAhpEwE3C84HlZyR AV3Hg6KcDTgnWPJM4r7vC+Bcu0MA1jEgeim57aEQvToZ+w0bsAmPXRdtPPX3y8ldKm3pgSf3F3N5 KFsB75a5c7wF7u04egW8QBwnzHjx3ygiGZUKnUJjIPXJtKhMY64g/AMg6Kr+cYBXCydW3GCWCp8y nXeHcHguHN8+rDuGzCDV3bybnINaH1QgLCqg6rouxFkocaPiQwhxNvq8YyAkxqfpfNh3fuZM+bjb 7kJmju/Yie+v/x+k/LDddr8BShKMrI4evB8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21289 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21289 I think the same way the spam bot searchs for @ it can search for _A@T_ or anything else, also, if it was dynamic with random formats it would be better, but the author of the bot could simply grab our source and update his bot with all the formats. IMHO this change will not help spam prevention. Richard Stallman writes: > Do people think this is worth even trying? > Are address harvesters still blocked by such simple things? > > To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > From: jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.linux) > Organization: Private > Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:06:07 +0300 > Subject: [patch] 21.3 add-log.el::add-log-mailing-address security (spam) > Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+rms=gnu.org@gnu.org > > > The following change will help selecting more appropriate default for > displayed identity in ChangeLogs. This helps fighting against spam > harversters by not letting then simply rip out all that looks like > "@". This is naturally tip of the iceberg, but I believe any measure > to improve security should be included in Emacs as well. -- Marcelo Toledo marcelo@marcelotoledo.org http://www.marcelotoledo.org Mobile: 55 71 9141-7181