From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug in Custom Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:09 -0400 Message-ID: <873bdmroee.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <200607010014.k610E6WN015030@jane.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151724763 20592 80.91.229.2 (1 Jul 2006 03:32:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 03:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 01 05:32:40 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FwWDl-000702-GX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2006 05:32:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FwWDl-00045j-0c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FwWDY-00045e-BY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FwWDX-00044l-02 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [18.72.1.2] (helo=south-station-annex.mit.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FwWQR-0005Dw-JP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by south-station-annex.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id k613WJjK024884; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (OUTGOING-LEGACY.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.104]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id k613WGHs012273; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from cyd (SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-EIGHTEEN.MIT.EDU [18.95.6.163]) ) by outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id k613W9o7000810; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from cyd by cyd with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1FwWDJ-0000aC-00; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:32:09 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200607010014.k610E6WN015030@jane.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:14:06 -0500 (CDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 1.47 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56342 Archived-At: > I reported this bug a month and a half ago, but it is still present. > When I first reported it, the person who introduced the bug did > apparently not even read my explanations and declared the bug to be a > "feature". In the interest of Custom users, it would be good if > somebody else (Richard?) tried to understand my arguments of why this > really is a bug. As I explained before, it was Richard who, some time last year, decided that disabling Custom themes will bring back old values set outside of Customize; maybe you missed this explanation (or maybe you did not even read it). I am fine with getting rid of the `changed' theme, if Richard decides to revert his earlier decision. I can try to find the discussion if it's of interest.