From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mikhail Gusarov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is OpenUsability something for Emacs? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:23:10 +0700 Message-ID: <873bbqgwo1.fsf@vertex.dottedmag.net> References: <44E72B0F.8060306@student.lu.se> <44E81F63.8000105@student.lu.se> <200608201424.37537.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156159417 8706 80.91.229.2 (21 Aug 2006 11:23:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 21 13:23:35 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GF7sO-0000c7-L2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:23:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GF7sO-0001Ez-1w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:23:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GF7sC-0001ED-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GF7sB-0001Ds-MJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GF7sB-0001Do-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [85.118.226.168] (helo=dottedmag.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GF7zY-0006jK-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:30:52 -0400 Original-Received: from vertex.dottedmag.net (unknown [10.10.31.3]) by dottedmag.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CE61C0B3 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:23:11 +0700 (NOVST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:12:16 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58625 Archived-At: You (rms@gnu.org) wrote: RS> One can't expect users to know about that command. In order for RS> that to be the solution to the no-mouse problem, something on the RS> screen needs to say how to use it. Usability is about using things, not about learning to use things. Would you like to have every possible Emacs keybinding shown on the screen? -- JID: dottedmag@jabber.dottedmag.net