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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How global is a define-global-minor-mode mode?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:47:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <873b5vtapb.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HB4g5-00069d-Jp@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 28 Jan 2007 02\:42\:17 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     >     Not really: if the global minor mode is autoloaded, then :require is
>     >     a nuisance,
>
>     > I don't follow.  Could you explain why it is a nuisance?
>
>     The :require thingy is a risk: if you move the definition of the mode to
>     another file, then the user's customizations will be broken (it happened
>     with global-font-lock-mode).
>
> It seems that you are saying the risk is that the :require has to
> specify the file name, so if you move the definition to another file,
> the :require argument will be wrong.
>
> If the :require is generated automatically, perhaps it would never be
> wrong.

The only way for Emacs to know which source file to :require, for a
third-party package, is to look at the custom-set-variables
declaration in .emacs.  Therefore, the only way your suggestion can
work is for define-global-minor-mode to somehow put this information
in .emacs.  If you move the source file to a different location there
is no way for .emacs to be automatically updated.

So there's no sane way to handle this automagically.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-28 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-14 18:35 How global is a define-global-minor-mode mode? Lennart Borgman
2006-12-25  0:43 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-29 15:44 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-29 17:21   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-30  6:23     ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-30 10:57       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-31  1:46         ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-31  2:27           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2006-12-31 22:13             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-03  0:18   ` Johan Bockgård
2007-01-03 21:11     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-20 19:34 ` Chong Yidong
2007-01-21 22:27   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-21 23:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-22  9:04     ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-22 14:55       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-23 20:55         ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-23 23:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-23 23:59             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-24  1:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-24 19:29                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-25  4:57                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-25  8:56                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-25 19:27                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-25 21:47                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-25 23:56                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-01-26  4:34                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-27 19:43                           ` Chong Yidong
2007-01-26  4:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-01-28  7:42                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-28  7:42             ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-28 15:47               ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2007-01-28 16:37                 ` David Kastrup
2007-01-28 19:53                   ` Chong Yidong
2007-01-29  4:32               ` Stefan Monnier

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