From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: smtpmail believes starttls is not needed (solved) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:00:00 +0900 Message-ID: <873avx5yfz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <18209.43812.217617.480295@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18209.59810.123026.810484@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193435960 21879 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2007 21:59:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Puitg?= Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Fri Oct 26 23:59:20 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gexb-xemacs-beta-2@gmane.org Original-Received: from 98.f7bed1.client.atlantech.net ([209.190.247.152] helo=calypso.tux.org) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IlXD5-0006qq-VW for gexb-xemacs-beta-2@gmane.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:59:20 +0200 Original-Received: from calypso.tux.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.tux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D0E117912; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.172.156.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by calypso.tux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181C41178B2 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9QLx54P005934 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l9QLx52L005933 for xemacs-beta@calypso.tux.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9QLx2iU005912 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l9QLx2xo005911 for xemacweb@tux.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.97.224]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9QLx1AP005895 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:01 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A8E8001; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:59:00 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 79D651A2E12; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:00:01 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <18209.59810.123026.810484@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20070621) XEmacs Lucid X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Delayed for 44:38:33 by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [207.172.156.133]); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:59:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id l9QLx1AP005895 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports and discussion of XEmacs development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:26148 gmane.emacs.bugs:16848 gmane.emacs.devel:81804 Archived-At: Fran=E7ois Puitg writes: > You're definitely right. No with-no-warnings function in XEmacs > 21.4.20. And if I have anything to say about it, there won't be one. > Thanks a lot, I've spent such a long time on this, believing that the > problem was in my smtpmail-starttls-credentials setup. And this kind of thing is why. `with-no-warnings' and similar often inadvertantly hide real problems. It's also unnecessary in XEmacs.