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Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: [21.1.90]: point put at point-min in *compilation* Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:13:25 +0900 Message-ID: <873as4ii6i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702CD2B19@maileube01.misys.global.ad> <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702D254AF@maileube01.misys.global.ad> <87ve51iyfp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202418486 21761 80.91.229.12 (7 Feb 2008 21:08:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Simon.Marshall@misys.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 22:08:26 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JNDy8-0006Df-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:07:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNDxg-0000Qb-5f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNDxc-0000Pz-6p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNDxa-0000PQ-EO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNDxa-0000PM-3j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDxZ-0004P3-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDxZ-0006wQ-EB for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDxV-0004NG-Vy for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDxV-0004M2-Cm; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A966F1535B3; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:06:57 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 295031A29E5; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:13:26 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20071205) XEmacs Lucid X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88459 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20937 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > To achieve the former, comint could have a third setting for how it > moves point, where point movement would be on a timer (by default > expiring somewhere in the neighborhood of 300ms at a guess). Or if > you're multitasking and checking progress only in your peripheral > vision, you could slow it to 1000ms or even more. Probably instead of > scrolling at the end of the window, which would result in jumps, do a > recenter after each forward-line. > > I can't see concreteley what sort of point movement you have in mind > to do when the timer goes off. So I don't understand the idea. > But I think that having point move a few times a second would be > disastrous for any attempt to do editing. s/point/window-point/. A disastrous abbreviation, sorry. Well, you wrote that the screen scrolling was too fast. You specified a workaround of slowing down the compiler, but that seems silly since Emacs will buffer as much text as the compiler wants to throw at it. So I propose slowing down the scrolling to a pace at which you can keep up with it, which of course will vary depending on how heavily multitasked you are. I haven't watched Emacs build in a long time, but on my system which is reasonably slow, I have no trouble following an XEmacs build in my peripheral vision. I'd guess typically 1-3 files compile per second (thus the 300ms pace for scrolling I suggested) and at that pace warnings stick out like a sore thumb. Ditto for Linux kernel and git builds (actually, more so since they don't print out command line options and such, just stuff like "CC kobject.c"). I have no problem editing in one window while window-point is moving in another. Unless there are so many warnings that I stop thinking about what I'm doing in favor of thinking about fixing them. But that's a feature. ;-)