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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94715 Archived-At: On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:15:23 +0100, Jason Rumney said: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: >> * GNU/Linux >> - debian: manoj, please help me fill in this. Desktop? Other? >> - ubuntu: I guess system default mail, but other knows better than me > I don't think its as simple as which distribution you use. It depends > on whether you choose to install a full mail server (which may be part > of the defaults on some distributions, or it may depend on choices > made at install time), and it depends on whether that server is > configured correctly. Manoj is right - in multi-user environments > with a qualified administrator looking after the machines, sendmail is > going to be less problematic than expecting all users to set up their > mail client. But increasingly GNU/Linux is being used in single user > desktop environments. Fair enough. But at least in Debian, Package: exim4 Priority: standard Description: meta-package to ease Exim MTA (v4) installation Depends: ..., exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy | exim4-daemon-custom So the default install would instal exim4-daemon-light, an MTA -- and installation time configuration leads the user through basic setup. Choices are: 1. internet site; mail is sent and received directly using SMTP, 2. mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP or fetchmail, 3. mail sent by smarthost; no local mail, 4. local delivery only; not on a network, 5. no configuration at this time I suspect a lot of single user machines are using the first 3 choices; but I have no data to back up my suspicion. manoj -- There is more to life than increasing its speed. Mahatma Gandhi Manoj Srivastava 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C