From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VMS support Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:12 +0200 Message-ID: <873alz681f.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <87iquzmcxm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4l76ntu.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <8763qznhfd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k5fcc2ui.fsf@ambire.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216887296 15935 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 08:14:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:14:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 10:15:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLvzB-0007bf-AP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:15:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38556 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLvyH-0007Ly-As for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:14:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLvyB-0007L1-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:14:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLvy9-0007Kp-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60503 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLvy9-0007Km-Bq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:14:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [151.61.142.159] (port=48756 helo=ambire.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLvy9-0007Nn-Pa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KLvUi-0005Nr-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101373 Archived-At: () Stefan Monnier () Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0400 The only question that I think is really relevant is: is there some hope that someone will pursue this work (both the copyright assignment issue and the update of the code to the Emacs-CVS-trunk codebase) in some foreseeable future. Personally speaking, there is hope, in two parts: a/ I received a clarification about the nuances between "disclaiming interest" and "copyright assignment" from the FSF copyright clerk (thanks!), which can be summed up (IIUC) as: Richard Levitte's code is ok to use, if i copyright the (extensive) changes i've made to it, since i myself have done the past/future assignment. b/ I have a soft spot for VMS, though that spot shrinks w/ time. If i can finangle a $ituation to provide a port of Emacs 22 (or Emacs 23, once it settles), i will do it, otherwise no. Having said that, i haven't queried potential funders yet, and the negotiation process may take a while, and it may ultimately block indefinitely, so "in some foreseeable future" is not indicated. I say go ahead and zonk the VMS support. If someone funds another port (by me or whoever), previous source can always be re-dredged and previous "expertise" can always be re-fudged. :-D If anyone reading this is in a position to expedite b/ (above), please feel free to contact me privately. thi