From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:45:33 +0900 Message-ID: <873alamgvm.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <21576055.881601218543663926.JavaMail.www@wwinf4605> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218552308 20377 80.91.229.12 (12 Aug 2008 14:45:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: alinsoar@voila.fr Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 16:45:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSv8J-0006Bi-EV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:45:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44557 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSv7N-0005yj-6F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:45:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSv7I-0005vm-5i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:44:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSv7H-0005u3-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39525 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSv7H-0005tn-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:51224) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSv7C-0008As-75; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.97.237.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.97.237] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1KSv79-0006JO-5y; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:44:47 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9913CDFB7; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:45:33 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <21576055.881601218543663926.JavaMail.www@wwinf4605> (A. Soare's message of "Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:21:03 +0200 (CEST)") Original-Lines: 33 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102338 Archived-At: A Soare writes: > I have never known in all my life a person using windows that thought > to use emacs. All persons that I knew and wanted to (learn lisp)/(use > emacs) used linux or MAC OSX. They do of course exist though. The two classes that seem to be common are: 1) People that got used to emacs in another OS (in my experience usually old unix systems, e.g. sunos/solaris), and continue to use it in windows. I suppose this number is dwindling. 2) People that are influenced in some way by an emacs user. E.g., windows-using spouse/friend/... of emacs user. Whether having these people use emacs windows advances the cause of free software I dunno, but I suspect it does in the long run -- my observation is that emacs, as a somewhat singular program, seems to keep them aware of this "other" culture (the free software culture) when otherwise they might simply not be. Sadly, many people are not going to move away from windows quickly, but I think it is useful to keep channels of communication open. -Miles -- Love, n. A temporary insanity curable by marriage or by removal of the patient from the influences under which he incurred the disorder. This disease is prevalent only among civilized races living under artificial conditions; barbarous nations breathing pure air and eating simple food enjoy immunity from its ravages. It is sometimes fatal, but more frequently to the physician than to the patient.